In recordings, Trump’s sister says he ‘has no rules’ – East Bay Occasions


WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s older sister, a former federal decide, is heard sharply criticizing her brother in a sequence of recordings launched Saturday, at one level saying of the president, “He has no rules.”


Maryanne Trump Barry was secretly recorded by her niece, Mary Trump, who lately launched a e-book denouncing the president, “Too A lot and By no means Sufficient: How My Household Created the World’s Most Harmful Man.” Mary Trump mentioned Saturday she made the recordings in 2018 and 2019.

In a single recording, Barry, 83, says she had heard a 2018 interview along with her brother on Fox Information wherein he steered that he would put her on the border to supervise instances of immigrant kids separated from their mother and father.

“His base, I imply my God, if you happen to have been a spiritual individual, you need to assist folks. Not do that,” Barry says.


At one other level she says: “His goddamned tweet and mendacity, oh my God.” She provides: “I’m speaking too freely, however you recognize. The change of tales. The shortage of preparation. The mendacity. Holy shit.”

Barry may also be heard saying that she guesses that her brother has by no means learn her opinions on immigration instances.

“What has he learn?” Mary Trump asks her aunt.


Barry responds: “No. He doesn’t learn.”

The recordings have been first reported by The Washington Publish. The Related Press then obtained the recordings.

The recordings got here to mild only a day after the late Robert Trump, brother to Maryanne and the president, was memorialized in a service on the White Home. Later, the president was dismissive of the recordings.


“Each day it’s one thing else, who cares. I miss my brother, and I’ll proceed to work arduous for the American folks,” Trump mentioned in an announcement. “Not everybody agrees, however the outcomes are apparent. Our nation will quickly be stronger than ever earlier than.”

Within the weeks for the reason that launch of Mary Trump’s tell-all e-book about her uncle, she has been questioned in regards to the supply of a few of its info. Nowhere within the e-book does she say that she recorded conversations along with her aunt. On Saturday, Mary Trump revealed that she had covertly taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry.

“Mary realized members of her household had lied in prior depositions,” mentioned Chris Bastardi, a spokesman for Mary Trump. He added: “Anticipating litigation, she felt it prudent to tape conversations in an effort to shield herself.”


The president has often spoken extremely of his sister; the recordings are the primary time a member of the family, outdoors of Mary Trump, has been important of him.

The recordings illuminate the stress between the president and his sister. At one level Barry says to her niece: “It’s the phoniness of all of it. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is merciless.”

Mary Trump’s e-book was stuffed with assaults on her uncle, together with the assertion — he denied it — that he paid somebody to take the SATs for him as he sought to switch into the College of Pennsylvania.


In a single recording, the federal decide says Joe Shapiro took the take a look at for Trump. The president was buddies with an individual at Penn named Joe Shapiro, who’s deceased. Shapiro’s widow and sister advised have mentioned he by no means took a take a look at for anyone.

Bastardi mentioned of Mary Trump: “She by no means anticipated to study a lot of what she heard, together with the president’s sister, federal decide Maryanne Trump Barry, state that Donald Trump had paid somebody to take an SAT examination for him.”